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Student senate calls for removal of Cosby degree, passes constitutional amendment

| Saturday, March 26, 2016

The Student Senate passed a resolution recommending that the University revoke Bill Cosby’s honorary degree this week. Eight amendments to the Student Union constitution regarding elections were also passed at Wednesday night’s meeting.

A committee consisting of Badin Hall senator Alex Fincher, Ryan Hall senator Isabel Fox and Pangborn Hall senator Taylor Still presented their resolution to recommend that Bill Cosby’s honorary degree be revoked, citing in the resolution that he “admitted under oath to using illegal sedatives to coerce women into sexual intercourse.”

“Mr. Cosby’s association with these behaviors is in direct conflict with the University’s stance, as stated in du Lac, that ‘sexual assault is inconsistent with the University’s values and incompatible with the safe, healthy environment that the Notre Dame community expects,’” the resolution stated.

The Senate voted to pass the resolution, student body Parliamentarian Sara Dugan said.

The constitutional amendments covered many areas of student body elections, including the campaign process, election dates and finance for elections.

All physical campaigning materials must now be no larger than 11 by 17 inches — clarifications for where materials can be placed were also addressed.

Previously, classrooms could not be used at any time for campaigning, but a new amendment states that classrooms cannot be used for campaigning during a class period or during an exam.

Elections for student body president and vice president will now be on the fourth Wednesday of the second semester. If necessary, the runoff election will still be held on the following Monday.

A new subsection regarding student body election finance was also added:

“The Judicial Council shall make available funds to reimburse the candidates for student body president and vice president of expenses incurred for the purpose of campaigning. These expenses must have been presented to the Election Committee. Reimbursements shall not exceed the campaign spending limit [$200], and the Judicial Council president shall approve these reimbursements.”

Sophomores Daniel Cohen and Alexandra Henderson were approved as the Student Union Treasurers after being nominated by current Student Union Treasurer Mason Shinn.

Student Union Board (SUB) Director of Operations Rebekah Rumschlag, on behalf of the selection committee, said the committee chose junior Louis Bertolotti to serve a second term as the Executive Director of SUB.

“I am fully confident that Louis has the skills, expertise and attitude necessary to choose and work with the rest of the members of SUB to maintain SUB’s standard of excellence in the upcoming year,” Rumschlag read from her letter.

Michael Meyer, an associate professional specialist in the Mendoza College of Business, was awarded the Frank O’Malley Undergraduate Teaching Award after being nominated by two students, student body secretary Mae Raab said in an email.

The Irish Clover Award is given to two individuals — students, faculty, staff or administrators — who have demonstrated exemplary service to the Student Union. This year’s award was given to Bryan Ricketts, student body president, and John Ritschard, a worker in South Dining Hall, Raab said.

Ricketts was nominated by senior Zach Waterson, the outgoing judicial council president.

“He has dedicated an incredible amount of time to the Notre Dame Student Union, serving as a role model for younger student leaders and as a resource to his peers,” Waterson said in his nomination letter.  

Another committee including Dillon Hall senator Michael Finan, Cavanaugh Hall senator Kathleen Rocks and St. Edward’s Hall senator John Kill presented two resolutions regarding Notre Dame’s partnership with Zhejiang University, Raab said.

The first resolution requested transparency regarding the partnership and the second proposed the creation of a standing committee “to represent the Notre Dame community, which shall be comprised of faculty, staff and students with the express purpose of discussing, assessing and making recommendations regarding the University’s partnership with Zhejiang University.”

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Megan Valley is one of the Associate News Editors for The Observer. A junior majoring in English and the Program of Liberal Studies, she hails from Flushing, MI and lives in Flaherty Hall.

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  • FiddleRox

    “Judge not lest ye be judged.”

    For being a Catholic University and thus supposedly being an upholder of “moral” and “ethical” values one would think that this is a preemptive action that may not exactly be “moral” or “ethical” in and of itself! Shouldn’t you be certain that Cosby had actually committed the crimes he’s been accused of BEFORE you take action and revoke his honorary degree(s)?

    Nvmd… I’m preaching to a religious sect who has held THREE Inquisitions and murdered millions just for the sole reason that those who were murdered were not of your faith!

  • StormJunkie

    No one should be required to damage themselves by associating or aligning themselves with a man that most of America believes is a serial predator. That is their right.

    • LornaD

      Beliefs are not facts.

      • StormJunkie

        It is a fact that Cosby was using drugs to have s 3 x with women. This is not the Bill Cosby that was given the awards and the Universities no longer want to be associated with what he represents.

        • Burt

          Where the proof he drugged to rape women?
          Because I said I went to Venus do not make it true sweetheart

        • Burt

          Where the proof he drugged to rape women?
          Because I said I went to Venus do not make it true sweetheart
          If I said I had kim Kardashian and amber rose in my hotel room – Do that make it true or a fact.

          • StormJunkie

            Nothing you said is believable.

          • Burt

            These ladies have not convince me with their stories they was drug to rape.Their relationship with BC was consensual.
            End of Story

          • RandallPoopenmeyer

            You should look up the stories of Joan Tarshis, Louisa Moritz, and Barbara Bowman. So ridiculous… Tarshis actually said that she was “insulted” that Cosby didn’t personally drive her home after the alleged assault. What kind of sick monster wants their rapist to drive them home? I bet she wanted a goodnight kiss from him as well! She kept hanging out with him, and again said she was insulted… I will let you find out why, very intriguing reads!!

          • Burt

            I didn’t know that – ton’s of stories

          • keke

            Just like Bev Johnson said in a Larry King interview that when she “knew” Cos drugged her she knew that “he” had to take her home. I mean…what? You knew the person who is trying to so called hurt you HAD to be the one to take you home????
            Why the crap would a “victim” want the person who they supposedly”know” is trying to hurt them take them home? Plus she said there were other people there but in ano……you know what.. Ugh
            Smh

          • Burt

            This lady told everyone she knew her coffee was drug lace on the very first sip yet she sip again – after two sip she couldn’t stand.
            What a scam

          • keke

            And a “sip”. Lol not Gulp. A sip. Everyone calls her out on that

        • Burt

          Love reading your comments

          • Karmacosby

            I love reading yours. Because every time I read them I am filled with new joy in the knowledge that you fight for the Cosby Creeps and not us.

          • Burt

            I not fighting for anyone – it’s none of your business if me and my girlfriend walk around my house naked and drunk . NONE of you fools business. It none of your business what two consenting adults – BC and whom ever did 40 years ago

          • Karmacosby

            Magnificent. Truly.

          • RandallPoopenmeyer

            Lol, I love you.

          • RandallPoopenmeyer

            Innocent until proven guilty. I will stand by anyone until they are PROVEN guilty.
            And no, claims made 40+ years later are not proof.

          • Karmacosby

            Goody for you. Who asked you?

          • RandallPoopenmeyer

            You aren’t that important either…

          • keke

            Mos def

          • Karmacosby

            YAAAAAWN.

          • StormJunkie

            What you don’t want to see is 57 women accusing him of sexually assaulting them and most claiming they were drugged without their knowledge. If that were proven true would you feel differently about what Bill was doing? This argument is about consent and Bill using drugs to bypass it.

          • Burt

            Why you keep repeating 57 women accusing him of sexually assaulting.
            30 said it was a Hug or kiss in public? 10 to 15 said they never got close enough to touch. 8 to 9 said they carried on a relationship with the guy for years.

            Why you keep repeating the same trash?

          • Rick Manigault

            20 of those women claim he tride to kiss them, that is not a crime but you need to say 57 women because you have no integrity and don’t care weather he did it or not.

          • StormJunkie

            46 of the 57 women claim they were drugged without their knowledge. That doesn’t leave 20 to cover your first statement. I think it’s your integrity that’s in question.

          • Rick Manigault

            Lets talk integrity, Chloe Goins is included in that 46. 11 women by your own account that were not drugged or raped by Cosby, Why must you keep saying 57? I have more examples but work to do and better comment sections, this battle is won.

          • StormJunkie

            I don’t know when these were last updated but someone is keeping track on Cosby Rape . Org
            Cosby Rape Tracker Stats
            58 Women claim they survived sexual misconduct and/or drugging by Bill Cosby

            Publicly declared sexual assault/rape by Bill Cosby 56
            Near escape of sexual assault 6
            Drugged by Bill Cosby 46
            Given an actual pill to take (herbal medicine, antihistamine, contact, something to relax, here take this) 8
            During ‘audition’ instructed to act wasted, drunk, intoxicated 6
            Drugged Soda 2
            Aged 15 at time of rape/sexual assault 2
            Bet, trick, audition, show tickets, dinner or party with no other guests 52
            Denied food while he ate specially prepared food 1
            Age 17 at time of assault 5
            Lobbied State Legislature to change statute of limitations on sexual assault in Nevada from 4 to 20 years, Bill was passed and signed by Gov Sandoval. 1
            Describe experience as rape 32
            Describe experience as other type of sexual assault 20
            Asked to “wet your hair” 5
            Aware of assault during, despite drugs and periodic unconsciousness 44
            Aware of assault after regaining consciousness 6
            Drugged Cappuccino 2
            Filed Police report 4
            Pending criminal case 2
            Pending civil cases 3
            Asked to slick hair back in a ballerina bun 1
            Asked to style hair like Queen Noor 1
            Assaulted at NYC Brownstone 4
            Assaulted at Elvis Presley Suite at the Las Vegas Hilton, Las Vegas, Nevada 5
            Raped at his 5 bedroom Suite at Caesar’s Palace, Las Vegas, NV
            Assaulted at Playboy Mansion 3
            Raped at Whitehall Hotel 1
            Noticed Cosby wearing “CAMILLE” ID bracelet during rape 1
            Worked on Cosby show as non-speaking role, extra, main character in an episode or stand in 7
            Canadian 3
            Playboy Bunny 3
            Rape/Assault/Attempt occurred in the State of Nevada 13
            Felt shame and blamed herself in some way for assault 43
            Mentor, father figure, career counselor, you can ‘trust me’ statements 22
            “Sicker than I’ve ever been in my life” after being drugged by him 9
            Sexual assault took place in the State of Nevada 13
            Women who have been or are currently a party of a lawsuit against Cosby related to sexual assault 17

          • KiaSoto

            I think you would have a point if all 57 people came out simultaneously- without hearing each others stories – but they came out one by one – and many are close friends…before the allegations began!!! the tracker was created by someone from the we believe the supporters page so naturally it data entered from a bias point of view

          • StormJunkie

            Not really. A few knew each other but most are from different states and spanning a time frame of almost 50 years. The data is entered by someone that knows most of the victims and has more first hand knowledge than anyone involved. You would be biased too if you were able to talk to the victims and hear their stories firsthand rather than have to rely on the media and all the different versions.

          • FiddleRox

            You spin things faster than your fishing reel spins as you crank the handle to reel in your line!

            You said: “A few knew each other but most are from different states and spanning a time frame of almost 50 years

            Then your very next sentence was: “The data is entered by someone that knows most of the victims and has more first hand knowledge than anyone involved.

            Let’s set the record straight.

            First: MANY of the women DID know each other or they did have connections to each other through their modeling agencies and/or talent agents, etc.

            Second: That “someone” you are referring to is Brandy Betts. She is a former admin on the “We Support the Survivors Of Bill Cosby” facebook page. She had a falling out with the other admins of that page due to her nasty attitudes and controlling nature/persona so sh, along with another, created the “Believe Women” (now appears defunct) facebook page.

            Third: What first hand knowledge could Brandy Betts have that others don’t? She wasn’t a “victim” and she never seen any of the women being “victimized”! She has absolutely no first hand knowledge that Cosby did a thing he’s been accused of!

            Fourth: If Ms Betts has any first hand knowledge that would have to be about what the women are saying to each other now behind the scenes and it would include information about the suits filed against Cosby. That would, coincidentally, be evidence that the women are conspiring against Cosby and his character. SHE could be a key witness that could provide evidence/testimony that Ms Constand (as Andrea is one she claims to personally “know”) or even Ms Troiani had divulged/discussed contents of the 2005 deposition prior to it’s partial release back in July 2015. Ouch!

            Fifth: Since Ms Betts was admin to the the one facebook page and creator of the other SHE has shared links to those media and all the different versions as though they were facts. So by you suggesting/implying that those media and all the different versions are/were inaccurate you are inadvertently suggesting/implying that Ms Betts and those facebook groups/pages are spreading false and/or inaccurate information.

          • KiaSoto

            well there you have it. nothing but facts

          • FiddleRox

            Thank you Kia. Now if only just one of them, the women or their supporters, could provide the facts/evidence and be as straight forward as i was then we could move forward with these cases. But I think they prefer this little cat and mouse game.

          • KiaSoto

            exactly and they seem unable to produce anything that backs their claims…interesting

          • StormJunkie

            Zero facts. Total speculation. Each media source has it’s own take on the accusations and there have been many errors which is why Bill Cosby needs to face these women in a courtroom where an unbiased and impartial judge or jury can make a decision as to who is telling the truth based on the evidence. Until then Bill’s cat and mouse game to avoid a courtroom, the only place he would have the opportunity to defend his reputation and restore his image is very telling.

          • FiddleRox

            Huh. You were talking about Brandy Betts’ database and her FB page and her website. I filled you in on those “facts” that you implied that you didn’t “know” aboutwho that “someone” is.

            “I don’t know when these were last updated but someone is keeping track on Cosby Rape . Org”

            and later you reaffirmed that you “don’t know”:

            The data is entered by someone that knows most of the victims and has more first hand knowledge than anyone involved.

            If you visit Ms Bett’s website and FB page you can clearly see that she has shared many links to those articles that you claim have “many errors.

            There is no “speculation” as the information I provided you IS verifiable and, therefore, factual!

            But hey. Do what you do and try and SPIN the conversation so that it suits your agenda and, now, “off-topic” points of discussion.

          • jinarvada

            Excellent evaluation of the situation.

          • KiaSoto

            Totally understand your point of view and that’s why I am so adamant in my belief that Bill Cosby is innocent last year I had a chance to interview him so I understand.

          • StormJunkie

            Only interviewing one side and not talking about the allegations wouldn’t be an informed opinion. If you would have had an honest discussion with both sides concerning the allegations then I could understand your point of view.

          • iamyelhsa

            since you are so questioning of the victims would love to know what questions you asked bill. LOL! interview would be a stretch for that one kia, more like luci’s speak to type.

          • Burt

            Gloria Allred

          • iamyelhsa

            Lying is all you can do at this point to defend cosby. You lie without batting an eye.

          • KiaSoto

            Ashley do not try and discredit me because I speak the truth! One of the people in ur crew created that tracker

          • Rick Manigault

            “Noticed Cosby wearing “CAMILLE” ID bracelet during rape 1″

            I almost fell out of my chair, best laugh so far this week, a multimillionaire womanizer(not a teenager in middle school) has an ID bracelet with his wife’s name on it?

            Cosbyrape.bs is a hate group meant to undermine the safety of our precious female family members in the name of hating an accomplished innocent old Icon.

          • StormJunkie

            Didn’t bother to notice that what you’ve been spreading are lies. Nice deflection.

          • Burt

            All this drug and raping data with zero evidence anything ocuured
            Too funny
            Where the proof sweetheart?
            I went to the moon last week – I flew to the sun in 1074 –
            Lot of info but, but but, where the proof

          • Burt

            You just a loony – nobody care about this junk

            end of story

          • Burt

            You have all this info but only one or two can give the year they claimed they were drugged to be raped – they can’t give a date,place, hotel or time this drug rape occurred.
            In the real world you need a date time witness and a police report.
            If this date raped occurred 40 years ago without a date time witness and a police report. YOU SOL CH—-IT OUT of LUCK

          • Burt

            You have all this info but only one or two can give the year they claimed they were drugged to be raped – You and 56 women can’t give a date,place, hotel or time this drug rape occurred. WHY?
            In the real world you need min of a date time witness and a police report.
            If this date raped occurred 40 years ago without a date time witness and a police report. YOU SOL CH—-IT OUT of LUCK

            Why you think they called it date rape – you have to have a date you were rape Storm
            What Date these ladies claim they was rape?
            They don’t know sweetheart

            LIke I said – I visited the moon back in 2002
            Question will be how?
            No moon rock, video, time date witness – meaning I’m a liar.

          • Burt

            Just love your details – CAMILLE” ID bracelet
            Only thing I see is they volunteer to go to his hotel room to party.
            I’m reading volunteer after volunteer – I don’t see he put a gun to my head to make me take these pills. He made me go to Elvis Presley Suite at the Las Vegas Hilton, Las Vegas, Nevada.
            All this date rape were in places where the ladies could have walked out his hotel room and went to the police – WHY they didn’t do that?

          • StormJunkie

            If you love details you’ll like the detailed Wiki page devoted to Bill’s activities spanning his entire career.

            Bill Cosby sexual assault allegations

            From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

          • FiddleRox

            LOL…… Wally Damron’s play page. ROFLMFAO….

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          • Burt

            You think i’m wasting my time reading a depostion or wiki on bill cosby on he say she say info. Gloria round up a bunch of old mules to scam BC out $100 mil . Some people have a llife and job

          • StormJunkie

            Since you think so highly of your opinion I thought you might want some information to go with it.

          • Burt

            You wasting your life away with this BC crap – take a vacation –
            I don’t care who you or Bill cosby did – none of my business
            I just hate to see injustice on anyone including you.
            You know these women are scamming Bill Cosby
            They just flat out telling everyone they bunch of liars.
            Why you think BC not in jail for all this drugging to rape.
            Because it didn’t happen

          • StormJunkie

            You do care and you don’t know. There is no injustice in seeking justice. If Bill is innocent he should challenge these women to prove it. Instead he fights to keep them out of a courtroom.

          • RandallPoopenmeyer

            Why should he challenge them? It is their job to prove him guilty. If I am innocent, I am not wasting my time and money proving people wrong. It is their responsibility to use their resources to prove him guilty.

          • StormJunkie

            BS, if you are innocent the quickest way to prove it is file defamation suits and challenge them to prove it. Bill can’t complain about what’s happened to him if he takes no interest in defending himself and spends all of his money keeping the women from proving their claims.

          • Wilma Fingerdew

            There is a REAL rape tracker (not the hate group’s phony baloney one) and Dr Cosby isn’t on it.

          • StormJunkie

            Sorry, I forgot there was this one that is much more detailed. Bill Cosby sexual assault allegations From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

          • FiddleRox

            LOL…… Wally Damron’s play page. ROFLMFAO….

          • Wilma Fingerdew

            That’s just wally playing in his sandbox. Hate group shill gotta spread their hate! There is a national rape tracker in the states which you con artists copied from. The REAL rape tracker makes no mention of Dr Cosby whatsoever.

          • StormJunkie

            Wally’s doing a good job. The information seems to be on point and accurate. Does the rape tracker you keep talking about make mention of anyone’s name?

          • Wilma Fingerdew

            Wally is just following orders. He’s just one of the many many white faces attacking a black man on behalf of your hate group. And his job on the wiki is the same as yours here; to LIE. I ain’t buying what you’re selling, shill, move along.

          • StormJunkie

            Is it racist to want a man that happens to be black held accountable for raping women of all races? Are you the white face that wants justice denied for Bill’s black victims race baiter?

          • Wilma Fingerdew

            Black men are guilty before trial according to your hate group lynch mob. You are a racist animal and all you do on these boards is lie.

          • Adam

            Yes it is racist to make someone be held accountable decades after the incident when not a single police report has been made and instead of challenging it in court, make them accountable by ruining their reputation. Actually that’s just the lynching part. The racist part is when you do it because he is black and successful and you don’t even challenge the rape aspect of it.

          • StormJunkie

            This has nothing to do with Cosby being black and successful. Dozens of women say he was using drugs to rape women. Using the race card is an act of desperation. I am guessing you are a white male living in an all white community that knows nothing about racism.

          • Adam

            Drugs that haven’t been relevant in 30 years? Where was these women 20, 30, 40, or even 50 years ago? Real victims report a crime, not try to ruin someone’s reputation and awards decades later. Wake up and smell the racism. The assault by this many women is just a decoy so they can attack him.

          • StormJunkie

            God help your family. Hopefully you’re good at something that doesn’t require any common sense. Tell these women that Cosby is being targeted by racists These are some of his victims that just so happen to be women of color. Cosby raped women.
            Jewel Alison
            Lili Bernard
            Sarita Butterfield
            Lachele Covington
            Renita Cheney Hill
            Michelle Hurd
            Beverly Johnson
            Lisa Jones
            Kacey Carlos Delgado
            Angela Leslie
            Lise-Lotte Lubin
            Katherine McKee
            Jennifer Thompson
            Donna Barrett
            Charlotte Fox

          • Adam

            You can be black and be racist against blacks. Just because they are black in color means nothing. It’s their personality that matters. These are the same women who are not challenging Cosby in a court room but have staged protests against his awards and accomplishments. Common sense would dictate you attack the crime, not the person or their accomplishments.

          • StormJunkie

            Maybe it isn’t racism but the man that raped them who claims they are lying that hides behind his wealth.

            “The next thing I remember is I was in the Rolls-Royce profusely vomiting.

            I remember the driver saying, ‘You’re not the first.’” —–Elizabeth

          • Adam

            And you expect people to believe that you profusely vomit then do nothing about it and wait for others to come forward before you get a little annoyed?

          • StormJunkie

            I believe it. What would you have done?

          • Adam

            Report it.

          • StormJunkie

            That you were high on drugs you had no prescription for? Just for laughs tell them Bill Cosby must have given them to you.

          • Adam

            So Bill Cosby is equivalent to say…the Easter Bunny? I guess it’s not possible to believe anyone can be with a living, breathing celebrity. Given the fact you live in the same area. And drug tests can do wonders – all you have to do is prove it wasn’t yours and that you weren’t given it willingly. For a heavy drug user though that would be an uphill battle.

          • StormJunkie

            Bill Cosby is the equivalent of Darren Sharper on Steroids. You make it sound so easy to prove a he said she said against Bill Cosby with no evidence. Drug tests can do one thing and that’s detect drugs. They can’t tell you how they got there. These women weren’t heavy drug users and none of the women given the quaaludes even recognized them.

          • Adam

            You don’t know that because you don’t know these women. You need to do more research on Janice Dickinson and Beverly Johnson – both very heavy drug users back in the day. Trust me, they’d know a Quaalude if it was given to them.

          • StormJunkie

            I was a heavy drug user, I know what a Quaalude is and I can tell you what they do and why Bill was using them. Lots of people were experimenting with drugs. That still doesn’t give someone the right to give women sedatives in a calculated premeditated attempt to sexually assault or rape them. That has never been acceptable.

          • iamyelhsa

            read up on the dynamics of abusive relationships to learn more about yourself and why these women and many individuals everyday are assaulted and remain quiet about it until a triggering event. that triggering event could be the amount of time you spend with your misogynistic comments supporting a rapist, for your wife or daughter. she will be grown one day and you will not be successful, or someone your daughter is proud of. think about it adam. you have a real family that needs your time and yet you escape them to defend bill cosby. time is fleeting, and your daughter is growing up without needed attention from you.

          • Adam

            Reading up on the dynamics of abusive relationships isn’t going to fix the problem. If you are expecting me to just read it and accept it, you are part of the problem – not the solution.

          • iamyelhsa

            to understand it, it will help you be a healthier person for yourself and your family. if you spend your time defending a rapist, you are teaching your daughter what you value, and it won’t be her. she will grow up looking for someone to give her the attention and love she lacks and it could have a similar outcome for her like the women you insult and mock as bill cosby’s victims. he isn’t worth your time, your daughter is, and needs you to protect and love her. that is a solution and the only one you can really impact.

          • Adam

            I am NOT defending a rapist. I am actually defending law and order from anarchy. There’s a huge difference there. Maybe you need to sort out your own history and stop worrying about the alleged actions of Bill Cosby or my family. Get your priorities in order.

          • Lucinda Jezzebelle Blackletter

            Standing ovation!!!!!!

          • KiaSoto

            🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

          • iamyelhsa

            is that you? nice pic, kia.

          • iamyelhsa

            no you are not adam. bill cosby is being afforded every right he is owed as a human being being charged with criminal offenses. he does not need your misogynistic support, neither does society need you to defend it from anarchy. my gosh, you are delusional. maybe it is best for your daughter if you ignore her and defend the serial rapist. you def. are not a threat to the law. cosby will continue to be forced to defend himself for his crimes. what you type doesn’t change that.

          • Adam

            It’s funny you say I’m delusional yet there you were disrupting his performance because you don’t believe in rights or the system. You back women that are doing everything to circumvent the justice system. I’m here to make sure that Cosby is treated fairly by protecting him from people like you.

          • iamyelhsa

            how so?

          • Adam

            Because a person like you who protests against Cosby believe that the system failed the victims when the victims didn’t even use the system to begin with. They believe their actions will fix this “broken” system and cause victims to get justice.

          • iamyelhsa

            nobody is circumventing the justice system. lol. cosby is making his way through the system. there has been nothing done that deprives him of his rights and you have done nothing to protect him according to your delusional perceptions. funny.

          • Adam

            Nothing that deprives him of his rights – says the protester of his show in Atlanta. lol Or let’s not forget the “Cosby raped me” TV specials. Or the suing for defamation when they haven’t suffered any loses that wasn’t caused by themselves by coming forward publicly. Let’s not forget all the attacks on his associations. You are so absolutely delusional, it’s down right hilarious.

          • iamyelhsa

            wasn’t caused by themselves for coming forward publicly? you don’t realize that women are NOT being silenced anymore by your twisted form of shaming blaming women victims. it’s one of the ways our culture is changing, progressing, and benefitting from the courage of these women coming forward publicly to tell what cosby did to them. His associations agree. people don’t like people who hurt other people. except for a few pitiful abusers who are losing their power to control and hide behind the silence of victims. not silent anymore, adam. no sir eeeee. make that no souyeee misogynist pig. lol

          • Adam

            By definition of them suing for defamation they are being shamed and suing to rectify that.

          • Jessie

            Out of curiosity, what rights are there to protect public performers from being heckled? What rights of the audience were infringed upon? Is there a right to entertain without disruption, or to be entertained without disruption? What about the TV specials, who’s rights were violated and how?

            As far as the women, you can’t say what damages were incurred after the “discredited” statement was made – we have a court system that will determine that, and it’s within the women’s and Cosby’s rights to use it if either party feels they were defamed.

          • Adam

            There are many rights, freedom of speech only goes so far. But when someone buys a ticket, you cannot prevent them from entering the building nor can you cause violence against that individual. You can’t physically disrupt the show or drown out the person on stage. In most cases, you will be escorted out by security. And obviously Cosby’s basic human rights were violated with the TV specials because you can’t call someone a criminal without a trial.

            And as for the women, it’s an injustice to say someone defamed you when you are the one defaming the other. The fact that now they have to prove that’s it true circumvents the system. The state really needs to review their laws as this shouldn’t be allowed to proceed.

          • Jessie

            Freedom of speech is a right, and you’re correct that it does not include preventing someone from entering a building and it does not excuse violence. Neither of those things happened to Cosby or his audience.

            The rules against disruption are enforced by the venue, not the constitution. Ashley’s rights to free speech were not infringed upon by being removed from the show, she violated policy (knowingly), and as a result, was escorted out of the building. Just like she knew she would. She did not violate anyone’s rights.

            Yes you can call someone a criminal without a trial. Where does it say in any human rights legislation that you can’t? You can call someone a rapist, a monster, a somnophiliac, anything you want. Of course doing that opens you up to being sued, but these women knew that and spoke out anyway. Could you imagine what life would be like if you weren’t allowed to talk about something that happened to you until a court (the government) decided you could?

          • iamyelhsa

            Omg!? You can’t call someone a criminal without a trial? Can you call someone an idiot for writing that? Lol

          • Jessie

            LOL!!!!!

          • Adam

            “Innocent till proven guilty” is a human right.

            “1. Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defense.

            2. No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.”

          • Jessie

            Cosby is certainly enjoying those rights. No one froze his bank accounts, or is stopping him from leaving his house. Did you know that in the US, people are often put into jail BEFORE their court date?! Yep. And did you know that doesn’t violate human rights? He had his passport taken away, that’s it.

          • Adam

            How exactly has he been enjoying his rights? What’s freezing bank accounts have to do with anything? They called him a rapist and there was no trial done for well over a year before he was even charged. That’s not innocent until proven guilty so what exactly are you referring to? Are you just ignoring that entire time previous to him being charged?

          • Jessie

            Have the courts found him guilty of rape yet? No. Has he encountered one single repercussion normally reserved for those found guilty through the courts? Nope. The courts simply can’t dictate public opinion and there’s no law or code or anything that suggests folks are doing anything wrong in considering Cosby a serial rapist given all that we currently know.

            For those of us who believe Cosby is guilty, it’s because we’ve weighed all the information, and there is no reasonable doubt that he’s guilty. None. We didn’t need a court to tell us that, and we’re certainly not looking to impose punishment reserved for courts as a result of our belief. You see, he was innocent, and then proven guilty by way of having all doubt removed. The same can be said of those of you who have weighed the information, prior to court, decided not to reserve judgement and condemn the women.

            If you need a court to help you come to that conclusion I hope it makes it that far. Let’s be honest though, there are very few, if any, folks who at this point would have their minds made or changed by a court ruling. Duhfenders will still defend, supporters will still support, those who don’t care won’t care. Court won’t change a thing except what will be written about him, will it remain “alleged” or will it become “convicted”?

          • iamyelhsa

            ignoramous, he is and will be presumed innocent by a jury of his peers, if he goes to trial. presumption of innocence doesn’t apply to anyone but the jury.

          • Adam

            Wrong, it is not limited to a jury. That quote was copied DIRECTLY from the Human rights website.

          • iamyelhsa

            in a public trial

          • Adam

            What part of you are wrong don’t you understand? IT’S NOT LIMITED TO A PUBLIC TRIAL. Bill Cosby is being held guilty instead of innocent. He has lost all his human rights over the past year and a half and you have contributed to that happening. You cannot call someone a criminal without a fair trial. To do so is against human rights. YOU DO NOT SUPPORT HUMAN RIGHTS!

          • iamyelhsa

            no adam, he has not lost his human rights. he still has ALL his rights.
            ” He has lost all his human rights over the past year and a half ” LOL!! i don’t usually use caps. but, that is so riduculously funny! “You cannot call someone a criminal without a fair trial.” embarrassingly funny! adam is a criminal! what happens now?

          • Adam

            What’s exactly funny about losing a human right? Lord you need help. May god have mercy on any man in your life.

          • iamyelhsa

            it’s SO funny because it isn’t true, adam. get it through your thick head, bill cosby still has all his rights as human being. should he be found guilty, he may not. losing his rights is serious. your remarks are funny.

          • Adam

            Get it through your thick skull. Calling someone a rapist who hasn’t been convicted as one is a violation of human rights and it’s been done over and over and over again to Bill Cosby. This is serious and you laughing at it shows the kind of person you are.

          • iamyelhsa

            or as larry wilmore says…..“Why are they still calling him ‘comedian Bill Cosby?’” Wilmore asked. “Isn’t he better known now as a rapist?”

          • Adam

            Exactly my point. We should call him rapist Larry Wilmore.

          • iamyelhsa

            oh well, don’t think the rest of the world agrees with you. go ahead adam, you can do whatever you choose to do. will let larry wilmore deal with you. bill cosby can deal with everyone else. you do need to be careful what you say. i call oj a murderer. i call bill cosby a serial rapist. i call you ignorant.

          • Adam

            Well according to you, I can say whatever I want because it’s free speech and he can’t touch me because I didn’t do anything wrong.

          • iamyelhsa

            ok, cool, btw, i haven’t been the one crying and whining about it. that’s you.

          • Adam

            I never traveled to Atlanta to make a big stink about it. That’s you.

          • iamyelhsa

            yep, and didn’t deprive cosby of any of his human rights either. let him know what i thought about him depriving other’s of theirs though. 🙂

          • Adam

            Oh lordy you didn’t understand anything today…typical.

          • iamyelhsa

            oh lordy, there is no understanding something that isn’t true as you habitually tried to express. it was nonsense. cosby has retained all his rights and there is no danger of him losing any of them, in spite of his numerous criminal offenses that deprived others of theirs.

          • Adam

            No, as you have shown me today – did Larry Wilmore retain Cosby’s rights? No, he did not. And neither do you. You speak of something as if is true when it is not confirmed. You can’t separate reality from your own opinion. That’s why you’ll never understand what a human right is and why it is important. There is no reason to engage this discussion with you. Like many of your folk it’s best to talk to a wall as they seem to absorb more data.

          • iamyelhsa

            wilmore is under no jury instructions to presume cosby’s innocence and he is NOT in the courtroom. do you think the prosecutors presume cosby is innocent? NO! he wouldn’t be tried. you are woefully ignorant of what you are trying to communicate and, it shows!

          • Adam

            You are an absolute lost cause and it shows. Go look up human rights please and let me know if human rights only apply to a court room.

          • iamyelhsa

            you go look up presumption of innocence and see how it applies. it is a human right. presumption of innocence in a public trial setting. it is every human beings right in the u.s. even for serial offenders. it doesn’t mean people who aren’t on the jury lose all common sense and reasoning skills. did you presume oj was innocent? sandusky? ted bundy? you are either a fool or playing one very well.

          • Adam

            Again, presumption of innocence is a legal right – not a human right. You are getting confused. Innocent until proven guilty is a human right. You are not researching human rights like I said you should do and get informed. Not everything is black and white. I presume everyone is innocent until proven otherwise. OJ was never found guilty so unless something new develops, we won’t ever know if he did or not. Every criminal is also a human being with thoughts and feelings. You’d best think about that.

          • iamyelhsa

            each one of his victims is a human being and i do think of their thoughts and feelings. do you?

          • Adam

            Newsflash!! OJ was found not guilty!! See you only focus on their side of the story. I know more about Bill Cosby than I do any one of these women and I’ve researched them and I have my doubts as to their credibility after analyzing their history and their story. So yes, I have considered them.

          • iamyelhsa

            you responded, “we should call wilmore a rapist” lol, based on what?

          • Adam

            Based on allegations, that’s all you need right? As long as everyone else is doing it, you should too right?

          • iamyelhsa

            you go against the very thing you are arguing about. LOL. don’t have much of a conviction about what you are arguing for. it’s not about rights for you. it’s about cosby and you just proved it.

          • Adam

            It’s about rights for everyone. If Wilmore gets to call people a rapist without due process, we can call him a rapist without due process. Fair is fair.

          • iamyelhsa

            If you call Wilmore a rapist without due process then you get called a rapist too. Your reasoning is humorous. rapist!!

          • Adam

            What’s the correct reasoning for calling someone a rapist? When is it ok to do?

          • iamyelhsa

            why are you asking me? you already answered, remember?
            “It’s about rights for everyone. If Wilmore gets to call people a rapist without due process, we can call him a rapist without due process. Fair is fair.”

          • Adam

            You thought that was hilarious so I am wondering what your view is.

          • iamyelhsa

            already told you what i think, bill cosby is a serial rapist.

          • Adam

            That wasn’t the question.

          • iamyelhsa

            there are many facets that go into why i believe cosby is guilty, just like the rest of the world. i know a couple of the victims personally and have heard their experiences first hand. that is enough for me. i know these two women and believe them just like i believe and know what i say is the truth. for someone with misogynistic tendancies and trust issues with women (obviously) your first instinct is to mistrust women. it’s pathetic, you can’t acknowledge the truth to yourself, much less anyone else. you would rather lie to try and “win” an arguement than acknowledge and agree with the truth. no point in arguing with your kind. it’s a waste of time and not enjoyable. i can’t stand men who love to argue and get off on control. don’t want to feed you need adam. go love your wife and kids.

          • Adam

            There is no misogynistic tendencies. I understand they need to recruit people for their cue card based stories to feed their mission. I don’t trust people when they gang up on another, bully them over any kind of medium, harass their known associations or family members, expose all their negative stories over media, etc. This has nothing to do with a hatred of women but a hatred for bullies. I don’t condone how these women are behaving. And I’m certainly not going to trust them when one was exposed to be a fraud. I heard their stories, they sound ridiculous. If they were a true victim, they would have done what any victim does and that’s not burying their head in the sand.

          • iamyelhsa

            ignorant, very ignorant. not going to spend anytime on someone this willfully uneducated and ignorant. talk to someone who wants to talk to you adamn.

          • Wilma Fingerdew

            Have you ever considered that Jim suffered in pain for 30 years and you’ve been wound licking for just as many because Jesus hated you both?

          • RandallPoopenmeyer

            Why not teach people to stand up for themselves, instead of referring everyone to the psychological state of a victim. That helps NO ONE.

          • Kathy Darrow

            You continue to presume to know the dynamics of others’ lives. You don’t. It’s offensive, to say the least.

          • Passing through

            “If you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the problem.”


            Eldridge Cleaver
            Read “Soul on Ice” if you want to correct the quote.

            In the most controversial part of the book, Cleaver acknowledges
            committing acts of rape, stating that he initially raped black women in
            the ghetto “for practice” and then embarked on the serial rape of white
            women. He described these crimes as politically inspired, motivated by a
            genuine conviction that the rape of white women was “an insurrectionary act”.[5] When he began writing Soul on Ice, he unequivocally renounced rape and all his previous reasoning about it.[1][2]

            “No man is good enough to govern any woman without her consent.”
            Susan B. Anthony

          • Adam

            I’m not correcting the quote. It’s about the concept, not the author or his history.

          • RandallPoopenmeyer

            Hopefully Adam is a good father who teaches his children to stand up for themselves and not be afraid to get justice.
            All of the women who didn’t come forward are to blame for the person that got assaulted after them. Blame yourself for failing as a parent if your child is too afraid or doesn’t care enough about themselves to get help. My parents sure taught me to stand up for myself.

          • jinarvada

            Like Selena, Wally needs to be blocked, saw well. His violent imagery is just as disgusting.

          • StormJunkie

            I give him credit for doing something to preserve what is taking place here. If you want to block someone don’t forget our little race baiting, Drama Queen Wilma that the defenders have all embraced.

          • jinarvada

            Wilma says some things that I don’t agree with, but most of it is purely hyperbolic, but it doesn’t match the imbecilic, immature violent imagery and asinine commentary by Wally. BB also should be blocked for good, too. She has admitted, proudly, that she has stalked posters she doesn’t like and has threatened them, or tried to intimidate them by revealing their private identities and following their other social media.

          • Wilma Fingerdew

            Don’t like my posts? Don’t read them. stranger. Give you one less thing to lie about.

          • RandallPoopenmeyer

            Integrity would be coming forward immediately, to make sure no one else is a victim of that person…

          • StormJunkie

            Integrity would be a married man with five children that preaches responsibility to the community knowing that its not ok to give women sedatives that he wants to have s 3 x with outside of his marriage.

          • RandallPoopenmeyer

            Innocent until proven guilty.
            Where is your proof?

          • StormJunkie

            “Innocent until proven guilty” is nonsense outside of a courtroom. Testimonial evidence has convicted a lot of people with a lot less than what Cosby is facing.

          • Adam

            See this concept is why groups like us exist. You don’t understand justice, law, or human rights at all.

          • StormJunkie

            You don’t understand that there are consequences for doing something wrong when there is evidence that supports it well before a judge or jury decides guilt. Most rapists accused of what Bill Cosby has been accused of are in jail awaiting trial and aren’t able to post a million dollar bond. Are all the people in jail innocent? If so why are they in jail?

          • Adam

            I understand that. But there are cases where people have gone to jail while they were innocent because there was a tampering of evidence which lead to a conviction. Now from what I’ve seen with Bill Cosby – the petitions from members of your group to start a trial with Constand, the mass ganging up on one individual with claims of assault over 20-50 years, the attacks on his job, family, awards, known associations, etc. – I am not seeing anything where it appears to be justified. Why should Cosby have to do a settled case over again because some other unrelated women want to trash him? You think this is some sort of hugely delayed justification for crimes but that’s not what I’m saying based on the evidence I’ve seen.

          • StormJunkie

            The case was never settled. You don’t think 57 women telling similar stories is evidence? Do you think it was just coincidence that Cosby was giving sedatives to women and 46 claim they were drugged without their knowledge?

          • Karmacosby

            The operative phrase is “don’t think.”

            And no, he doesn’t.

          • Adam

            Why do you keep insisting on these false statements? The case was settled out of court, that’s a fact. 57 women telling similar stories isn’t evidence when they all came forth around the same time. It’s not coincidence, it’s a setup. You think 57 women could only come forward together and never decades earlier because he was such an untouchable figure? Give me a break. And missed fact again, the deposition you never read says that Cosby gave Quaaludes to A woman, not more than 1. The statement was corrected. And if you knew anything about Quaaludes, you would realize it was not uncommon for Cosby to be using that drug as millions of others were doing the exact same thing.

          • StormJunkie

            Nothing was ever proven. Bill cannot say he didn’t drug and sexually assault Andrea. He paid to silence her and cover up the evidence.

          • Adam

            And neither can Andrea say she was drugged and sexually assaulted. She knew she couldn’t prove it, took the money and ran away knowing full well she had full power over the situation.

          • StormJunkie

            Is that why Bill Cosby is facing criminal charges and is out on bail? It was all but proven when Bill settled. We still haven’t seen the entire depositon and none of Andrea’s and look what’s happened to him. Andrea wants everything released and Bill does not. Wouldn’t this tell a person with common sense that Bill has something to hide and Andrea doesn’t?

          • Passing through

            In front of police, though, Mr. Castor said Mr. Cosby seemed
            “evasive” and “wanted to hide” behind elaborate answers, giving
            investigators “longer accounts than the questions warranted. It sounded
            wrong to me,” he said in an interview.

            “But what I think and what I can prove are different things,” Mr.
            Castor said. “I can’t stand in front of a judge and say, ‘My gut tells
            me he did it.’ ”

            “The rekindling of interest brought more attention to Ms. Constand’s
            case and other women came forward. Ms. Constand was no longer a lone
            voice.

            “My instinct tells me he did molest Andrea Constand and my instinct
            tells me he was getting away with it for a long time,” Mr. Castor said.”

            Castor’s comments to an award winning journalist in Dec. 2014

          • StormJunkie

            Good Post! Bruce Castor has always maintained he believed Andrea was molested and thought Bill Cosby was lying. Odd that he would be part of an agreement to sabotage the criminal case unless he thought it would benefit his political career and would remain a secret.

          • Passing through

            Exactly! I don’t know WHY this isn’t evident to Cosby supporters?
            Admittedly, Castor maybe didn’t have enough to win with and he certainly didn’t want to jeopardize future donations or favours in his career pursuits.
            He did the next best thing, make Andrea rich, give Cosby a pass and a sloppy immunity agreement.
            Deposition and settlement is sealed, know one knows about the immunity and Life is wonderful and this will never surface again on my watch.
            That’s my take.

          • Kathy Darrow

            “…give Cosby a pass…” Has the current DA found any evidence, aside from the coveted deposition, that indicates that Castor COULD have successfully prosecuted Cosby in 2005? Or that Ferman could have used? Just wondering, but did you read any of the part I posted about the decision to not prosecute would, on its own, prevent Cosby from invoking his 5th Amendment rights?

          • Passing through

            “If all the allegations are true and he really is a serial sexual
            predator, we stopped him — we must have given him a good scare,” Bruce
            L. Castor, Jr. told the National Post. “There are no complaints of Bill Cosby’s sexual misconduct after they are alleged to have occurred in my county.

            “Andrea going to police in Ontario at that time, she is presumably
            responsible for at least stopping him from doing it again and she
            deserves credit for that.”

            That is a proposition slow in coming.”

            These were comments made by Castor back in Dec. 2014 when more accusers started to appear. Depo hadn’t been revealed yet but Castor knows he better start making a good story.

            Yes , I read your previous post in it’s entirety. My point has always been that although Castor supposedly made the deal of the century, why does he portray a different story to media and broker a deal that seems to be secretive?
            Is his testimony just being self serving and protective?
            Also, Why, even though Castor seemingly believes Andrea but agreeably has little evidence to prosecute, do You and others not support his quotes that he is convinced that what has been said about Cosby is true?
            Castor wasn’t a spring chicken for knowing guilt from innocence.

            Tell you what…A trade off, I’ll give you the three def cases and you give me the criminal case. Very good offer.

          • Kathy Darrow

            I see. All that needs to happen with serial predators is scare them.

            I see that the article you quote fails to mention a lot of facts that have come to light since… that Constand made numerous phone calls to Cosby after he allegedly assaulted her; that there are various versions of her story; and as Castor acknowledges, gut feelings don’t do much in a courtroom:

            “But what I think and what I can prove are different things,” Mr. Castor said. “I can’t stand in front of a judge and say, ‘My gut tells me he did it.’ ”

            The investigation was thorough, he said, and Mr. Cosby’s celebrity did not gain him easier treatment. But his status did provide him with outstanding legal advice.

            “It is not that unusual that someone of prominence gets into trouble,” Mr. Castor said. “The fact that I knew who he was is reasonably unusual, though, because I don’t pay much attention to the goings-on in Hollywood.

            “Those things do affect police and prosecutors — but not in the way you might think,” he said, adding that media attention means public scrutiny and added incentive to do everything correctly.”

          • Passing through

            Castor knew those facts, that you say the article failed to mention. He didn’t go out of his way to embellish on them.
            The fact that I knew who he was? Unusual comment. What a whitewash…those things do affect police and prosecutors, but…
            Come on KD

          • Kathy Darrow

            One minute you’re quoting Castor and the next you don’t believe what he says.

          • Passing through

            Tut Tut…you’re twisting:) I’m pointing out in all my posts, in Castor’s media reports, that it isn’t definitive what he believes. The only thing that seems to be consistent is that Castor is inconsistent.
            Is this the type of prosecutor that one would expect to do an adequate job?

          • iamyelhsa

            Do you believe what he says.

          • Adam

            That’s why she needs a second chance at filing criminal charges? How many cases do you know where the same crime gets tried over and over again even though it was mutually settled years earlier? Obviously Cosby doesn’t want his info out, he’s the celebrity on trial here. When Andrea or the other women gets charged, let’s see who’s hiding what.

          • Kathy Darrow

            It was not all but proven. If it was, why did she settle, without bothering to depose the rest of the Jane Doe witnesses?

          • StormJunkie

            The public seems to disagree. The allegations are now part of Cosby’s legacy and the information that came out in the civil suit resulted in the criminal charges. Andrea could only accept a settlement if Bill Cosby offered one.

          • StormJunkie

            Most people that have viewed the evidence see a serial predator that has never received justice.

          • Adam

            And others see it as a serial rapist that just showed up out of the blue. And the reason why Cosby is out on bail is not because of Constand. It’s due to political promises, 50+ women, public pressure, and using her because it’s the only way Cosby can be held responsible through the justice system.

          • Kathy Darrow

            Not the testimonial evidence nonsense again! Which of these accusers testified under oath and were cross-examined?

          • StormJunkie

            They can’t get to a courtroom because instead of wanting to make these women prove their claims Cosby seems to be afraid of giving them an opportunity. He’s still being protected by the SOLs. You guys keep asking for proof and it will be in the testimonial evidence.

          • Kathy Darrow

            Words alone mean nothing.
            So, why won’t the Massachusetts 7 provide any discovery documents or answer the interrogatories? They won’t even provide the basic facts of when the assaults allegedly occurred. Why does Cosby’s team have to write motions to compel? They can’t get to a courtroom? They have the go-ahead and the wide road from the judge. What are you talking about? Where’s their evidence?

          • StormJunkie

            “Camille Cosby, 72, is fighting to be released from her deposition, which began Feb. 22. Her husband’s legal team stated in court documents filed Friday, “There are substantive issues that need to be resolved before Mr. Cosby’s deposition proceeds.” And besides, they added, “Mr. Cosby and his counsel are unavailable for deposition on April 19, 2016.”
            Sounds like the Cosby’s are once again doing everything they can to make sure Bill gets a speedy trial.

          • Kathy Darrow

            How is the plaintiffs’ inappropriate demand for Camille Cosby’s deposition the Cosbys’ fault? As noted earlier, Cammarata isn’t focusing his questions on business matters. Why don’t the plaintiffs tend to providing the proof of their claims for THEIR lawsuit?

          • StormJunkie

            It isn’t inappropriate if a judge decides it can move forward. She claims she is his business manager. She should just cooperate and get it done. What’s the big deal if she doesn’t know anything and will be allowed to plead ignorance or spousal privilege anyways? Two of the plaintiffs have been deposed and I believe the rest are scheduled. Cosby is using the criminal case to stall the civil cases.

        • RandallPoopenmeyer

          He didn’t admit to anything criminal except giving out prescription drugs without a prescription, and this happened in the 70s. He doesn’t represent that anymore, or else you would still be representing poopy diapers.

          • StormJunkie

            Most accused rapists don’t admit anything criminal when questioned and Innocent men don’t require a deal of immunity to talk.

          • RandallPoopenmeyer

            Innocent until proven guilty. Settling and obtaining immunity are basic things done in law whether someone is guilty or not.

          • keke

            Its protection

          • StormJunkie

            Not in a case where you’re reputation is at stake. It’s the presumption if innocence until proven guilty which in no way implies innocence. This isn’t a personal injury case that would cost more to fight and win than to settle. That’s just a weak excuse the wealthy used to avoid liability.

          • RandallPoopenmeyer

            It is for protecting themselves. You don’t know much about the law. The hospital I worked at did this stuff all of the time whenever a frivolous lawsuit was brought, it was a waste of money and time to go through everything, Most of these women cannot even bring charges because it has been too long, but they keep trying to bring him down.

          • iamyelhsa

            Bring him down? Lol. Any lower and he is fish food already.

        • LornaD

          What you call “facts” cannot be substantiated. Meanwhile, the universities that he gave thousands, some millions to, that are taking away honorary degrees should return the money to Dr. Cosby with interest. And yes, I call him “Dr.” because he has an earned Ed.D. These institutions should not be hypocritical; if he doesn’t deserve an honorary doctorate (their opinion and right); then they shouldn’t keep his tainted money.

    • Burt

      This hate group not aligning themselves with Bill Cosby – These fool Student Senate Subcommittee were not even born at time BC donated the money. The question is who behind this waste of time and foolish chit. Megan Valley is a young racist in the making.
      Megan Valley and her group of Nazi’s females need to refund BC money ASAP.

    • Burt

      I’m clueless in this process where the rape occurred?
      Explain please

      • RandallPoopenmeyer

        I agree, Bill Cosby doesn’t care about this stupid degree that means nothing. Maybe schools should stop giving them out so they don’t have to rescind them every time someone is accused of or suspected of doing something that goes against these stupid Christian principles…

    • Rick Manigault

      Most of America wanted to go kill millions of Iraqis for no reason.

      Most Americans are bigoted racist who hate people based on religion or skin color.

      Most Americans don’t know Cosby isn’t even accused of rape in at least 1/3 of these cases.

      Most Americans haven’t bothered to look into the criminal / deceptive past of these women.

      Most people are idiots,and if you don’t think so you are one of them.

      • StormJunkie

        America was mislead by a government that wanted them to believe the Iraqis had weapons of mass destruction, just as they were mislead by the Gulf of Tonkin incident that started the Vietnam war. The majority doesn’t want to kill anyone.
        Most Americans are not bigoted racists but there are those that make a good living keeping racism alive.
        If Cosby is guilty of raping any of these women he is a rapist.
        Most of the women are successful credible women that are asking for nothing.
        Most people if allowed to see the evidence get it right and the vast majority believe the women.

        • Rick Manigault

          “if Cosby is guilty” you said it yourself, I don’t like old allegations and would never believe them, Chloe Goins showed me that the crew you run with didn’t care if he did it or not, going after Camille show’s you have no sense of decency.

          ALL of these women are looking for fame and notoriety with a few dollars thrown in.

          Most Americans are not bigoted or racist? A majority of white NYC residents believe black people are unworthy of 4th amendment rights and don’t deserve legal protections. Half my family are Christians from SC, a majority of people in the state would tell you not worshiping the god they do makes makes you less of a human being. Wycoff NJ police chief Ben Fox was forced to step down after sending out emails supporting racial profiling and brutality.

          This all all about race to most of you, I see about half of you hoaxers already tapped out.

          • StormJunkie

            No ones tapped out except Bill. Settling a lawsuit out of court is tapping out.

          • Rick Manigault

            That report seems like ineffective council, Bill would anger me by settling with these horrible women, denying accusations is free speech.

          • RandallPoopenmeyer

            Ugh, Janice Dickinson’s defamation lawsuit is actually going forward. How backwards is that?!? Cannot Bill sue for defamation?

          • Rick Manigault

            He is planning to, right now he only filed against a few liars.

            Still time for the judge to shut it down, look at the funny business in Philly burbs, That delay is the appellate court deciding whether they want to shut this down.

            Why destroy the legal system to quite this mob?

  • RandallPoopenmeyer

    Lol, passing judgment without any proof. Hearsay is not proof. Dumb students.

    • KiaSoto

      One of the most sacred principles in the American criminal justice system, is upholding that a defendant is innocent until proven guilty. Although I agree with your comment, I do not want to call the students dumb. Maybe they are not aware of the law and do not fully understand whats really going on. If they take a stance and prejudge others simply because of peer pressure and public opinion then it shows many of them lack courage to speak up – and be leaders -and not follow the crowd. Maybe as a project these students can dig info and review all the facts surrounding the hearsay allegations before they quickly judge Bill Cosby. I have said this before its very disappointing to see young adults and students entering into society with one-sided viewpoints. Maybe the student senate should observe more facts before placing judgement.

      • Rick Manigault

        These kids are lost and I’m the last person in the world to bash young people.

        Every person is now a member of some vigilante mob that decides people’s fate over Twitter, the willingness of people to either reserve judgement or use logic has been so impaired the world is in deep trouble.

      • StormJunkie

        The facts that the Universities based their decision on was Bill’s admssion to giving women sedatives he wanted to have s 3 x with. Deemed unacceptable behavior that the students and faculty want no association with.

        • Adam

          Just goes to show you how pointless honorary degrees really are. “Here’s an award cause we like you now but god willing if you screw up in the past or future we’re removing it? OK? We only give away awards to saints here.” Like removing someone’s honorary degree based on a trait that many people used 40 years ago? How would a bunch of 20 years old know anything about the 70s?

          • StormJunkie

            I realize how pointless they are. the same can be said about Cosby’s unearned Ed.D which was given to him for a dissertation he didn’t write.

      • iamyelhsa

        the presumption of innocence is for the jury kia but, you already know that. common sense and reasoning skills are not thrown out of the window for the rest of us. there is NO way you will be called on to be a part of the jury if there is a criminal trial. presumption of innocence is NOT the same thing as innocent. bill cosby was guilty of raping the first time he did it. whether or not he is ever found guilty of it in court is yet to be known. some men like, oj, are even found not guilty in court for the crimes they committed. i don’t presume to think oj or bill cosby is innocent and neither do you. you are a star struck blogger who got to talk to bill backstage and use your blog to try and blame/shame the victims, talking about one sided!? ………..

  • Adam

    They should really stop giving away honorary awards when the award is only given based on the present condition and can be revoked for any past or future deeds. Defeats the purpose. I guess only Gods and Angels can gain awards.

    • keke

      Andy “alleged” past deeds too

  • Burt

    The Student Senate Subcommittee need to figure out how much money Bill Cosby donated to the University and refund every penny with interests.
    Also everyone they disagree with don’t accept their nasty money

    • iamyelhsa

      just a thought but, you and the 7 who upvoted you obviously care enough to post, insult, and verbally harass the ones who made the decision. it shows just a little bit how many sexual assault victims are treated. removing an honorary degree from a serial rapist brings the worst of humanity out of the corners to his defense. thanks for showing your true colors, along with kia soto, craig hingley and the like.

      • Burt

        You sound very depressed. Overall how would you know how sexual assault victims are treated. Why you keep insulting Bill Cosby – Where you a witness to Bill Cosby sexual assault any women? If not – what give you the right to slam Bill Cosby or anyone with sexual assault if you didn’t see it with your own eyes.
        Just make comment on what you see with your own eyes Or Fact what people posting. Bill Cosby have 50 years of zero proof Bill Cosby he raped anyone.

        If guy touch a woman and she said stop and the guy stop – That not sexual assault.
        If a guy buy a lady a couple drink and they have sexual intercourse – That not sexual assault.
        If a guy give a lady a pill and she take it and have sexual intercourse afterward – That’s not sexual assault. If all three cases the guy didn’t uses force

        You having an issues with breaking down the two words of sexual assault.
        Sexual – physical attraction
        Assault – physical attack.

        Opinions are totally worthless without facts.

      • Edmund burke326

        Bill Cosby was/is on the FBI Enemies List started by Nixon, he and his wife have been under surveillance since the 60s because of their civil rights activism. Knowing he was under J. E. Hoover surveillance, detested by Nixon, witness to countless murders and lynchings of black men and boys, it is incredulous and stretches belief that Bill Cosby decided to attack white women (predominantly) and try to get away with it.

        If anything the FBI would be witnesses and if there was even a shred of evidence against Dr Cosby, Hoover would have used it. Conviction without trial i.e. lynching is the hallmark of a barbaric nation.

  • Rick Manigault

    Cosby never admitted to using drugs to coerce anyone!

    College students should be able to read and comprehend words, when Cosby is vindicated they will regret this article.

  • RandallPoopenmeyer

    Again, not being able to change it isn’t going to help anyone. Knowing about victim mentality doesn’t help anyone, STOPPING victim mentality helps everyone. I don’t care if your comments weren’t towards me, I can reply if I want.

  • Kathy Darrow

    Liar.

    • StormJunkie

      Let’s talk about it then. What were Cosby’s intentions when he went to the gynecologist to get the multiple prescriptions of Quaaludes? He tells us in his deposition which is proof of what happened to them.
      Tell us about the earned Ed.D and what Cosby did to earn it. While you’re at it remind us how he failed the tenth grade and earned an online GED.

      • Kathy Darrow

        No one who earns a GED can get advanced degrees?

        Speak to the others who were a part of his dissertation committee. The fact that the one, Damerell, had issues with the overall program, not just Cosby’s project, doesn’t prove anything:

        “Damerell’s claims came in his 1985 book called ‘Education’s Smoking Gun,’ which was a strong critique of education schools. A University of Massachusetts associate professor who left after 12 years, Damerell wrote in his book about a program at UMass in which people already established in their fields could earn a doctorate by taking some course work, getting credit for their work experience and writing a thesis.”

        “A 1985 story in People magazine about the book quoted Louis Fischer, acting dean of the University of Massachusetts School of Education when Cosby received his doctorate, as saying that Cosby’s thesis was “a very respectable piece of work”… Also, “Fischer adds that U. Mass. at the time was trying ‘to get away from the historic rigidities of schools of education’ and that there were ‘at least 50 other students at that time who also received Ed.D. degrees through such nontraditional methods.'”
        You insult the other professors’ knowledge and professional integrity with your attempts to disparage Cosby.

        • iamyelhsa

          You know cosby paid others to write his doctoral thesis. He doesn’t have the abilities to write it himself. Just money to pay some to do it for him. He places more value on titles and degrees to hide behind. There are not any titles that can cover up his evilness.

          • Kathy Darrow

            No, I don’t know that, and neither do you, Li’l Lyin’ Ashley.

          • HornOrSilk

            She “knows” accusations which is to her, as always, “proof.” Always inversion of basic epistemology.

          • keke

            Hmmm:

            “Camille Cosby, 72, is fighting to be released from her deposition, which began Feb. 22. Her husband’s legal team stated in court documents filed Friday, “There are substantive issues that need to be resolved before Mr. Cosby’s deposition proceeds.” And besides, they added, “Mr. Cosby and his counsel are unavailable for deposition on April 19, 2016.””

          • iamyelhsa

            Hurt people hurt people

          • Lucinda Jezzebelle Blackletter

            Your check list for the day?

          • keke

            She is right.
            Hurt people. “Hurt” other people

            She just told us ex-ACTLY why these women are doing this.
            However they are not in pain over what they claim.
            Hurt fake vic women who couldn’t be anything since Cosby ‘hurt their little feelings”
            hahahahahha

          • jinarvada

            We don’t know that and neither do you. Provide the evidence (for the record, hearsay evidence form a deadman doesn’t count. We already know it and we know it means nothing, so don’t waste your time repeating it — again). Provide the names of the genuine writers who can provide the info about the amount of money they received, which section of the dissertation they provided, the primary and secondary sources they consulted and full citations of the body of work they applied their theories on. Without that, you have no evidence to back up this claim. Go put your dunce cap back on, Ashley, and sit in the corner and learn that you can’t believe and repeat just every cockamamy thing you hear no matter how desperately and pathetically you wish to believe it.

        • jinarvada

          Absolutely.

        • StormJunkie

          I think you have to ignore the fact that Bill Cosby dropped put of Temple before ever receiving a degree and Sam Simon claiming Cosby’s dissertation was penned by Fat Albert writers in order to maintain that Bill actually earned his Ed.D. If all of this is true Cosby was given his degree for one weekend seminar and never actually finished anything he started academically.

          “Cosby’s doctoral thesis—titled “An Integration of the Visual Media Via Fat Albert And The Cosby Kids (1972) into the Elementary School Curriculum as a Teaching Aid and Vehicle to Achieve Increased Learning”—is why Cosby is often referred to as “Dr. Cosby” (and in the credits of The Cosby Show, under the impressive moniker, “Dr. William H. Cosby, Jr. Ed.D.”) It’s also why some have denounced Cosby as a fraud for reasons beyond the rape allegations, with Dyson’s 2005 book, Is Bill Cosby Right?, mean-spiritedly pointing out the facts of his actual education. For example, that Cosby dropped out of high school after thrice flunking his sophomore year, got his GED in the Navy, enrolled in, but quickly dropped out of, Temple University, and only achieved his bachelor’s in physical education from there retroactively—well after becoming a successful actor and comedian—for “life experience.”

          Ultimately, Damerell says Cosby’s doctorate was bestowed on him by a committee whose sole full-board “dissertation” meeting took place during a “sumptuous meal” for all the board members, hosted by Cosby at the sprawling, 16-room, restored farmhouse estate he’d purchased near campus. And of course, it was all based on a thesis that was, essentially, a report on how great Bill Cosby’s own television show was. And now, according to Simon, he didn’t even write that.

          Sam Simon
          ✔ ‎‎@simonsam

          8:00 PM – 17 Dec 2014 I worked with bill Cosby on fat Albert. he had two of the writers write his phd thesis.
          Meanwhile, Cosby’s masters and doctorate degrees were similarly granted thanks to a reportedly star struck dean who lured him to UMass Amherst’s education program, where Cosby was allowed a very flexible attendance schedule—which, according to one member of his doctoral committee, Reginald Damerell, consisted of “at least one weekend seminar.” It also gave him course credit for appearing on TV shows like The Electric Company.

          • jinarvada

            All things you have repeated before and all been thrown right back into your face multiple times. Now prove it using ANNNY of kind of evidence besides the hearsay tweet from a dead man.

          • StormJunkie

            Sam Simon was alive when he made the tweet and Cosby never said a word. None of this has been thrown back in anyone’s face. These are the facts as we know them.

          • jinarvada

            They are not facts as you know them.

            “Sam Simon was alive when he made the tweet” unverified statement by a dead man who never was asked for proof. Cosby was wise to ignore this, but his silence does not prove Simon was telling the truth. But you can do something. You can contact UMass Amherst and ask for the course program and curriculum for the degree Cosby was awarded. then you can contact each member of the Fat Albert show and verify what Simon said by asking each of them the questions I mentioned in my response to further up.

          • StormJunkie

            Why don’t you ask them? I have the information that has been published and you don’t want to believe it so do yourself a favor and prove it to yourself.

          • jinarvada

            I’m not the one passing around unverified information as though it were fact. That’s your moral duty: verify the FACTS first before you repeat possibly false and libelous information.

          • StormJunkie

            The information comes from someone that was on Cosby’s doctoral committee. Why would Sam Simon have any reason to lie, and why wouldn’t Bill Cosby refute it with documentary evidence like he did when the women made their statements.

          • jinarvada

            So? We’ve discussed him and the real context of his commentary. I’ve already told you he wasn’t targeting Cosby to make Cosby look like he did something wrong. The former professor was criticizing Ed.D programs. He absolutely did NOT accuse Cosby of violating any policy or academic standard. Why did Simon say what he did? Who knows. But since he’s dead, and you have no information to back up his statement, it is grotesquely irresponsible of you to repeat it without any evidence. Why should Cosby pay attention to that ? He does NOT have to behave a certain way to please YOU. YOU need to stop buying every piece of crap you read. Now go turn yourself back in to the mental hosital you escaped from and tell them you suffer from incurable delusions.

          • StormJunkie

            Reginald Damerell who served on Cosby’s doctoral committee says Bill Cosby’s degree is a joke. The program that gave it to him was a joke and Cosby did nothing to earn it outside of a dissertation that now appears he didn’t even write.

          • jinarvada

            Reginald Damerell says all issued Ed.D degrees are a joke. That was the essence of his entire written statement. That is what I have told you many times. The truth of his statements and the subject of his criticism of Ed.D programs in the United States doesn’t change just because you focus on his single example of Bill Cosby. One man’s criticism of an entire academic degree program in all universities across the nation doesn’t prove anything about Cosby. He doesn’t even claim Cosby did anything wrong. And his dislike of Ed.D programs and the one at Amherst in particular, is only his opinion. There are hundreds of outstanding universities in this country that offer the Ed.D program, now and in the past. Many school district superintendents have an Ed.D instead of a Ph.D. Many university administrators have Ed.Ds. Over the years, many types of degree programs for non-traditional students have been tried and succeeded,or tried and dropped. But that does not make a mockery of Cosby’s degree. And nothing has been proven that he didn’t write his own dissertation. Only one dead man’s irresponsible unsupported tweet gets passed around as though it is written in stone and handed out by Moses, despite the fact there has never been any actual proof and support given for this statement. The fact that I have repeatedly pointed out the flaws in your argument and you deliberate insistence on spreading misinformation jus proves that you either mentally ill and incapable of understanding logic, or you are mentally ill and so consumed by your hatred of Cosby that is has contaminated your soul, and you will stick to this unproven and misrepresented claim no matter what. Please go back to the mental health asylum you escaped from and seek help.

      • jinarvada

        Yes, let’s talk about it — again. We’ve covered this before, more than once. You already know that the rumors being passed around about his dissertation being written by someone else were started from a tweet by a now dead person who did not provide enough information upon which to base a conclusion. His Ed.D, by all accounts, was following a program within the 1970s and unless you know the entry qualifications, the course curriculum and other details about the issuance of such a degree, you can’t reach any conclusions that he violated any requirements, or that he was granted privileges he shouldn’t have received to receive the degree. Once again, you are deliberately spreading unfounded and unsubstantiated info based only on hearsay without regard for the truth. Why do you insist on passing misinformation when you know better?

        • StormJunkie

          This is the information we have. If you have any of your own you’re welcome to share it. Until then, accept it or continue making it up your own version.
          It’s not my fault Bill doesn’t think it’s necessary to defend himself.

          • jinarvada

            You are the one passing this “info” as FACT. In the ethical world, you would do your own homework and verify the facts yourself before publishing and repeating any drivel you hear.

          • StormJunkie

            Where’s your facts if the ones I am repeating are wrong?

          • jinarvada

            I’ve defined for you the procedures and policies surrounding the issuance and granting of degrees in higher education. I am not the one passing unverified information as a fact for the primary purpose of deliberately trying to damage a person’s reputation. Now do your homework. You should have done it before you and the others fell for such drivel and started posting this, but better late than never.

          • StormJunkie

            Cosby failed the tenth grade, earned an online GED in the Navy, briefly went to temple, spent a weekend at a seminar and turned in a dissertation reportedly written by two of his “Fat Albert” writers. Is this following the procedures and policies for the issuance and granting of earned doctoral degrees in education? This is public information and I can provide sources. If you’ve done your homework and want to share any of your information, once again feel free to do so.

          • jinarvada

            All you can provide as “sources” is unverified hearsay. You’ve been doing that for months now. If there were any other sources that could provide supporting documentation about these claims, you would have brought them forth already. None of this is proven, and none of it is going to be. Besides, people who drop out of school frequently go to college. I worked in a university for 23 years, spent about a decade in admissions. You’re taking claims and placing your own value on them that his standards didn’t warrant a degree. Here are your “facts” and a brief example of how meaningless they are. 1) He dropped out of high school and got a GED. And that’s bad? That means you can’t get into college. Yes, you can. That’s you’re unqualified evaluation. Doesn’t do anything to prove that Cosby violated any qualification or procedure to get his degrees. 2) One disgruntled former employee of UMass Amherst who doesn’t approve of Ed.D programs made a statement intended to show that the degree of Ed.D is worthless for no other reason than because he didn’t like them. He used a celebrity, Cosby, as an example to discredit college Ed.D programs, NOT Cosby. You’re trying to pass it off as something else. 3) Some dying man made an unverified, unsubstantiated statement that writers on the Fat Albert Show wrote Cosby’s dissertation. One little line with no supporting evidence what soever and you pass it around like it is the Holy Bible.
            Can we stop wasting our time talking about your “facts”. Because your “facts”, no matter how you present them or how often, do not lead to the conclusion that Cosby violated procedure and qualifications to get his degrees.

          • StormJunkie

            Basically your argument is “I refuse to believe anything negative pertaining to Cosby ” which has been your argument all along. Everything is a fact with the exception of What Sam Simon claims and nothing but crickets from Cosby and the University..

          • jinarvada

            And your argument is ” I will believe anything bad about Cosby whether there is proof or not.”

          • StormJunkie

            I go where the evidence leads me. I didn’t start out believing anyone until I read how Bill conducted himself in the first law suit. After reading his deposition you would have to be mentally deficient to believe he didn’t drug and rape any of these women. All the evidence points to a serial predator.

          • jinarvada

            And I go where the evidence leads me. I started out thinking there may be some possibility to the truth in these accusers’ statements, but the more they talked, the more their own version of the “facts” convinced me they were not telling the truth and they were gold digging. After reading their individual stories about their “pot of gold” and their extended relationships with him and the money they took from him, you would have to be mentally deficient to believe he drugged and raped these eager women.

            She only evidence of anyserial predator are these women preying on celebrity males.

          • StormJunkie

            How did you feel when Cosby admitted giving drugs to women he wanted to have s 3 x with? Did Cosby’s lying about the extortion attempt with Andrea Constand sound innocent? How about the attempted bribing? Bruce Castor listening to the phone calls saying they were incriminating and he believed Cosby was guilty and should be punished. Did you miss that also.
            I’ll be the first to admit, there are some questionable stories but I don’t think reasonable behavior follows being drugged and raped when you’re not sure what happened and not ready to give up on your dreams. Bill doesn’t give up on these women after the assaults either, He bribes and lies his way out of most of them.

          • Wilma Fingerdew

            Lots of black men failed tenth grade in America. I thought it was because there were so few black only schools and they were criminally underfunded. Thank you for pointing out your hate group’s opinion that it’s the fault of the black man if they were poorly educated in the 50s. Now what was that speil your hate group taught you about denying Dr Cosby is a doctor again? We can’t have black me thought of as doctors can we, We Support the Survivors of Bill Cosby/Believe Women shill. lol Tell us about the education of black men with your 99.8% white membership.

          • StormJunkie

            Lots off people of all color fail the tenth grade. I don’t know any that were handed an Ed.D except one. Cosby attended Temple briefly and beyond that everything was handed to him for being famous.

          • Wilma Fingerdew

            Oh, so we’ve gone from black men in the 50s are to blame for their poor education to more modern times when black men are handed their degrees because you don’t think they are capable of earning them. ok-k-key

          • StormJunkie

            Bill Cosby was handed an earned degree that wasn’t earned for being famous. The rest of the world earns theirs. What’ the deal with bringing up Bill being black in every conversation race baiter?

          • Wilma Fingerdew

            What you were handed was a script by your hate group which you are regurgitating online just as they instructed their members to do.

          • Adam

            It’s kinda funny how everybody seemed to write out Bill Cosby’s story as soon as the allegations hit…it’s like someone was trying to discredit him….hmmmm

          • StormJunkie

            Everyone was afraid of him. Not so much anymore.